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June 11, 2025
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25 min 27 sec
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$2M/Year NEMT doing only stretcher/gurney hospital discharges

Can you build an NEMT company without brokers? Mike Borom walked away from $27 wheelchair rides and sells stretcher discharges straight to hospitals.

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Mike Borom
Ambiance Medical Transportation
Los Angeles
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Nirav Chheda
CEO and co-founder of Bambi
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About this episode

Mike Borom, owner of Ambiance Medical Transportation in Los Angeles, bought a company that was 90 percent broker work and walked away from it, exiting wheelchair trips that paid $27 a ride. Brokerage is now about 4 percent of the business and he sells stretcher discharges directly to hospitals, health plans, surgery centers and aftercare centers, running 9 to 15 vehicles a day on trips that average seven miles. The pitch to hospitals is arithmetic: a BLS ambulance bills $400 to $800 for the same non emergency discharge, and up to $1,600 on a weekend.

Key takeaways

  • When Ambiance stopped taking broker wheelchair trips, the brokers stopped sending stretcher work too, because gurney trips are what brokers dangle as a reward for covering wheelchair volume.
  • Health plans offer roughly $110 for a hospital discharge, and Borom argues no professional stretcher operation survives on that number, least of all one crossing Los Angeles.
  • Every attendant at Ambiance is an EMT even though the work does not require it, and Borom sells that credential to hospitals as proof the crew chose healthcare deliberately.
  • Medicare audits ambulance billing about every six years, and rejected non emergency trips flow back to the hospital under contract, which is Borom's opening line with discharge planners.
  • Alongside the discharge business, the company runs 3,000 subsidized rides a month for California communities in a Lyft partnership where the senior pays 20 percent and the city pays 80.

Chapters

  • 0:00 Introduction
  • 0:59 Mike's pivot of his NEMT business
  • 5:20 Bambi enables operational efficiency
  • 9:39 Revenue numbers
  • 12:19 Figuring out the business model
  • 23:07 The future of Ambiance Medical Transportation
  • 25:14 RUN BAMBI RUN!!

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