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89
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October 8, 2025
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22 min 54 sec
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Leasing vs Buying my NEMT Vehicles: which should I do?

Should you lease or buy your NEMT vehicles? Jay Mudrick says lease, unless you already run 50 plus vans and have credit to spare.

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Jay Mudrick
Fleet Advisory Associates
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Nirav Chheda
CEO and co-founder of Bambi
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About this episode

Jay Mudrick, owner of Fleet Advisory Associates, spent 35 years in commercial leasing starting at GE Capital and roughly 20 of them in transportation, and he steers NEMT owners toward leasing in almost every case. Buying pulls cash out of the business and consumes the bank credit capacity an owner needs elsewhere, while vehicle lenders will do 100% financing, fund used units, and carry a chassis on interest only until the upfit is finished. He tells only long-established operators running 50 plus vehicles on a replacement cycle to pay cash or take a bank loan.

Key takeaways

  • Most commercial vehicle leases are open-end: fixed interest rate, floating term, lessee carries the residual, equity builds monthly, and there are no prepayment penalties or early termination fees.
  • A line of credit costs nothing to set up and carries no obligation to draw, but it lets an owner tell a dealer the vehicle can be funded in 48 hours.
  • The first two or three vehicles usually get financed personally or through a manufacturer program. Lenders want a year or two of operating history plus two years of financials.
  • Replace a vehicle 10,000 to 20,000 miles before trouble starts. Mudrick warns against sunk cost bias: a transmission you paid for six months ago does not stop the timing chain that is coming.
  • Keep a low book value, generic spec vehicle in reserve with your graphics on it. Turn down a broker or facility once and you drop from first call to fifth or sixth call.

Chapters

  • 0:03 Why leasing usually beats buying
  • 1:19 From GE Capital to fleet management, 35 years in
  • 2:26 The cash constraint every new NEMT owner hits
  • 3:00 Commercial leasing is not a retail car lease
  • 4:26 What buying costs you in cash and bank credit
  • 5:26 Vehicle lenders, 100% financing, and funding an upfit
  • 6:36 Step by step: application, financials, line of credit
  • 8:51 Open-end leases, floating terms, and building equity
  • 11:00 When buying actually makes sense
  • 15:10 When to replace: mileage and sunk cost bias
  • 17:22 What downtime really costs your reputation
  • 20:02 Backup vehicles and reading your fleet list

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